This week, President Barack Obama sat down with ESPN’s Bill Simmons for the sports writer’s ‘BS Report’ podcast. As expected, the president was very comfortable shifting topics from the possibility of a college football playoff to the Jeremy Lin phenomenon which has captivated NBA fans worldwide. Sportsgrid reports on the 5 things we learned from the sports sit-down:

Grantland’s Bill Simmons recently sat down with Barack Obama, noted sports fan and President of the United States, to do a podcast that he’s wanted to do for some time. In addition to learning that he knew about Jeremy Lin before anyone else, we also got an insight into what kind of sports fan Obama is. Here are the five most important things we learned about POTUS’ fandom.

1. He thinks a four-team college football playoff system is a step forward, but isn’t enough.

Obama: Well, I’d rather see it eight teams, but four is a good place to start. I think that gets us on the right trend. Nothing is more frustrating than at the end of the season, nobody knows who won. And what, there is some poll? Coaches make a decision? Nobody knows what that means.

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