While many are complaining about how softly Bill Maher treated Milo Yiannopoulos during his latest episode of “Real Time,” one of his guests, Larry Wilmore, was having none of it.
Wilmore was one of Maher’s guests, and during the Overtime segment of the show, which is only available online, he let Milo have it.
Maher asked the alt-right Trump supporter why he singled out a trans student during a speech at the University of Wisconsin.
Milo went on to discuss the transgender female as a “he” saying, “He had already left the university. And I make no apologies for protecting women and children from men who are confused about their sexual identity.” The Breitbart editor went on, “I did it on purpose. I misgendered this person… I think women and girls should be protected from having men who are confused about their sexual identities from their bathrooms.”
Wilmore challenged the statement right away.
“I just think it’s sad, because the same arguments that were used against gay people, treating them like aliens who wanted to f*** anything that moved and that’s why we should avoid them at all costs, are being used [against the trans community].
“There’s a difference without a distinction, because it’s using the type of arguments. It’s like when people try to compare gay and black. Yeah, they’re not the same thing. We shared invisibility. People didn’t see us in society, and gay people hid out from society, but there were a lot of the same issues that you have to deal with when you’re marginalized.
“You can always find an extreme person that becomes the object of your attack to assign that to everybody,” he went on. “So if you say, well that person is ‘weird’ or they want to commit sexual assault, then people think all transgender people want to do is commit sexual assault.”
Milo was quick to respond. “Well, they are disproportionately involved in those kinds of crimes… That’s not a controversial statistic, and frankly, you’re suggesting these people are the victims of some kind of discrimination, well I’m saying to you this is a psychiatric disorder — like identity disorder or like sociopathy.”
Milo had a point, but probably not the one he meant to make. It’s true that trans people are “disproportionately involved” in sex crimes: they are the victims.
The Office of Justice Programs states, “One in two transgender individuals are sexually abused or assaulted at some point in their lives. Some reports estimate that transgender survivors may experience rates of sexual assault up to 66 percent, often coupled with physical assaults or abuse. This indicates that the majority of transgender individuals are living with the aftermath of trauma and the fear of possible repeat victimization.”
Wilmore repeated, “This is what I said: [it’s] the same argument we used against gay people. You should do your homework. Homosexuality was called a ‘disorder.’ It was [called] a ‘psychological disorder.’”
Milo went on to say, “I think most gays have a long road, actually, to coming to terms with their sexuality.”
“Yeah, because of the way society treats them!” cried Wilmore. “If society said ‘we’re fine with gay people’ and it’s 1890, do you think in 1990 people are going to have an issue with it?”
When one of the other guests, former U.S. Navy officer and cryptology expert Malcolm Nance, confronted Milo, he turned to Maher and said, “You always invite such awful people on your show! They’re so stupid!”
At that point it was clear that Wilmore had had enough.
“First of all, hold on, Bill: You can go f*** yourself,” Wilmore emphatically stated. “If your argument is that these people are stupid, you didn’t hear a word this man [Nance] said earlier in the segment, because he can talk circles around your pathetic, douchey little ass from England, alright?”
Then Wilmore brought up some of the comments Milo had made earlier in the show, where he called SNL’s Leslie Jones “barely literate.”
“And one last thing: Leslie Jones is not ‘barely literate.’ Go f*** yourself again for that one, OK? She is a very thoughtful person, and very friendly.”