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On the latest installment of HBO’s Real Time With Bill Maher, comedian and The View co-host Joy Behar stuck it to Van Jones. Van has said in the past that Democrats need to take the high road with Republicans instead of sinking to their level.

This advice came from Michelle Obama who said during campaign season, “When they go low – we go high.” Behar doesn’t quite see it that way saying, Dems need to “go for the jugular” like the GOP. “No, when they go low we should go lower,” she said.

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“You’re the first perpetrator of this. He wants the kumbaya,” Behar said to Jones. “F*ck your kumbaya! These people on that side are crazy. Don’t you understand? They’re crazy! You don’t deal with white supremacists. I’m done talking to him, I’m talking to you,” Behar turned back to Maher.

This is a sentiment that Maher himself has advocated in the past.

Jones was quick to defend himself, saying that Democrats need to win over Trump voters and the best way to do that is to talk to them.

“All I’m saying is we got a great circle that includes women and Muslims, everybody, Jewish people. We need to get the circle bigger to take it away from them. And I’ll tell you what, if you don’t go and we don’t go, the Nazis will go. And I’m not going to do that in my country,” Jones stated.

Watch the video for yourself below.