Are DJs still gatekeepers in hip-hop? A discussion long in the makingĀ
OPINION: When Griseldaās Conway the Machine accused Funkmaster Flex and his ilk of gatekeeping, he opened up a convo about the evolution of hip-hop.
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I love a good evolutionary hip-hop discussion and debate so when Conway the Machineāthe Buffalo, N.Y., rapper and one of the many names and faces of the Griselda Records movement (it is indeed a movement; put a pin in that)āunleashed a salacious soliloquy on Instagram directed at legendary and controversial New York City mainstay DJ Funkmaster Flex (and DJ Suss One), I was all in.
Conway the Machine was lamenting the fact that he feels DJs like Funk Flex and Suss One are out of touch with what’s hot in the streets while still dictating what gets played on New York radio, which, for the sake of argument, would then presumably bleed down to the streets and impact sales and culture. Flex, of course, fired back with a retort of his own, alleging that Conway (Griselda)āand this will be me paraphrasingāhad the most significant co-signs possible and if he (and by default, Griselda) is worried about DJs’ impact on his career, maybe it’s because heās peaked, potentially reaching everybody that might be interested already, so Flex shouldnāt really impact his career at all. Legendary producer Pete Rock has also weighed in, and he and Flex have traded barbs, but for the sake of this discussion, thatās not as important.Ā
Just to be complete, Conway responded to Flex, saying that he doesnāt care if he plays his records or not on the radio, but Flex went on the Million Dollaz Worth of Game podcast and apparently said that though he likes and respects what Griselda Records is doingāits movement, so to speakāit isnāt his vibe. Conway felt like somebody of Flexās stature saying something like that could impact their careers, so he should keep opinions like that to himself.
My head is spinning. So Conwayās issue isnāt Flexās āgatekeepingā as much as itās Flexās sharing of his opinion. Again, my head is spinning. Apparently, a person of Flexās stature might shift something and thus impact the career of Conway in some negative fashion.
Thereās so much to talk about here. The idea of āgatekeepersā in hip-hop is as old as the genre itself. From journalists, magazines, record labels, execs and, yes, DJs, deciding and dictating what gets heard and signedāand before the internet ruined the label modelāthere have always been people who could make or break an artist’s career. For a long time, New Yorkās mixtape DJs definitely and significantly influenced which artists had an opportunity to really make it. Getting broken on New York radio was a thing, and folks like Funkmaster Flex, among legendary others, were instrumental in that practice, knew it and allegedly used that position to better their own position.
The internet changed a lot of that. Long gone are the days when firing off your latest record to a DJ was the primary source of breaking artists. Now, social media can be the thing that launches a song into the stratosphere. How many artists have had songs hit the charts because of a social media challenge or because TikTok decided this latest song was the song that everybody needed in a video?
Iām not saying that DJs arenāt vital any longer; I just donāt think a DJ as gatekeeper means the same thing as it used to. Hell, podcasters and really anybody with enough of a following can dictate trends as much as the next person. Now, making it onto a Spotify playlist or any other streaming-service playlist is a coveted position. Granted, many of those playlists are curated by DJs, but really though, the algorithms can do JUST as much of the work in putting an artist youāve never heard of right into your headphones. I canāt tell you how many new artists Iāve discovered just because I let Spotify pick out songs for me once an album has concluded.
Thatās how I discovered the artist UMI, and Iāve been listening to her music non-stop since. Everybody has a chance to introduce new artists to other people nowadays in so many ways that it feels archaic to even hold DJs to that standard. New York radio doesnāt hold the same sway it once did, and while regional music will always resonate more in the area it was launched, songs from Boston might hit just as hard in Seattle once the right folks in an area hear it and run with it, and itās not necessarily the radio DJs that do it. Atlanta is LEGENDARY for the stip club A&R circuit where artists would break records in strip clubs like Magic City to see how the strippers reacted; if they liked it, the artist had a hit. Who would have thought Peachez would have more sway than Flex? And itās not to say that DJs donāt have some sway; Conwayās gripe with Flex proves that there are still folks who feel like DJs move the needle. But hereās the rub: It wasnāt Flexās radio position that Conway took issue with, itās that he feels that Flex is a big enough name in the game to impact his career.
Which brings me to Griselda as a whole. I respect the hell out of what Griselda is doing as a label. TheyāConway, Westside Gunn, Benny the Butcher, etc.āare a real movement out here. And that popularity actually surprises me a bit, which is why I thought what Conway had to say was so interesting. Griseldaās aesthetic is d-boy, drug rap over pretty esoteric production that isnāt even remotely geared towards commercial radio. They have a lane and they body that lane something serious. But there was a time when they would be considered entirely underground hip-hop. They have had cosigns from the biggest names in rap, from Eminem to Dre to Interscope to features from any and everybody, etc. The fact that Griselda is a household name in hip-hop speaks volumes about their work ethic, output and resonance. Especially coming from Buffalo. This isnāt New York City; this is upstate.Ā
Considering just how big the labelās reach seems to be, it was surprising to hear Conway lament gatekeepersāthough he did say he didnāt need them himselfāsince Griselda seems to have broken through any potential glass ceilings in terms of notoriety. If its artistsā albums arenāt selling (and I donāt know how the label feels about its sales) that has NOTHING to do with gatekeepers. Their artists have moved past āthe gatekeepers dictate our careersā portion of their success and are firmly in the āour destiny is oursā camp.
And it was even more surprising to hear Conway lament folks like Flex, who just arenāt as important to the culture as DJs used to be when it comes to breaking records; Iām sure even Flex knows and might admit this. But to be upset that a person with an opinion shares it AFTER applauding them? Flex was asked a question and answered it. I donāt know that Flex (or anybody for that matter) owes any artist praise if he just doesnāt like their music. Is anybody going to hear Flex say that Griselda isnāt his vibe and decide to pass on the whole experience? Doubtful.Ā
Conwayās issue seems personal; he doesnāt like it when people arenāt fans of his label’s music. Cool. But he started it with a gatekeeper argument, alleging that New York needs to get the old DJs out of there in favor of younger DJs who are more attuned with the streets, which is odd to me because, well, Drake is as popular as ever, and Iām sure those younger DJs are playing that stuff and more.Ā
The fact is radio DJs especially donāt have a hold on the culture the way they used to. Radio itself doesnāt have as much of a hold on the culture, not while everybody has a phone and access to free music all day every day. Thatās why I think podcasters have become so bigāpodcasts are right there on the phone and there is unfiltered music talk where folks shoot straight. We hear a lot more from artists themselves in much longer form interviews.
Again, itās not to say that radio DJs donāt have sway; all DJs are a reflection of music in some way. A good DJ can put you up on artists any night of the week. But gatekeeping? Yeah, not like the ā90s. Nowadays, there are just way too many ways to circumvent the DJ part of the machine and many have been able to do it and get super successful.Ā
Griseldaās artists are the best example of doing just that.
Panama Jackson is a columnist at theGrio. He writes very Black things and drinks very brown liquors, and is pretty fly for a light guy. His biggest accomplishment to date coincides with his Blackest accomplishment to date in that he received a phone call from Oprah Winfrey after she read one of his pieces (biggest) but he didnāt answer the phone because the caller ID said āUnknownā (Blackest).
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